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Last updated: 26 May 2023

Autism community

Neither of us affiliate with any autistic community, as the vast majority of those with high-functioning autism or Asperger syndrome have forms far milder than our own.

This section summarises our perspective on the rest of those with diagnoses of autism spectrum disorder as it progressed. This perspective is also mentioned in various other sections (especially The social mindset as a whole) and on Other features of our lack of the social mindset.

At age 18, my friend stated, ‘I have no computer-science-person stereotypes; I don’t like anime, I don’t like memes, and I don’t play games.’

At age 19, I stated, ‘I’m hugely disillusioned with autists. They’re nothing fucking like us. They always have these clone practices, like going to conventions, anime, for Minecraft or Doctor Who or My Little Pony.’

At age 19, my friend stated:

‘I could scream. It’s not funny. It would just be relief [if they were all gone]. It would cut all the bullshit, wouldn’t even have to search for a girl, because it would be a bare wasteland, other than people like us, so it would be extremely easy to make friends.’

I replied, ‘We need to find that haven, wherever it is, of like-minded people.’ My friend replied, ‘You expect there to be a club of people with views like ours. Wouldn’t that be funny?’ I replied, ‘Yes, it would, and that’s why I can’t begin to think what sort of haven that would be.’ My friend replied, ‘Yes, even 20 people.’

I continued, ‘Because when I think of all the places autists typically go, clubs for Harry Potter, Doctor Who, anime, whatever, everything about those places and the people going there would be red flags for me and prevent me going or relating.

And then you have to think, well, what on earth sort of place would I envision there being people like us? And I can’t imagine one, because people like us don’t go out. We wouldn’t go to any of these clubs. Trying to think about where we would go, it’s only school.

It’s got to that point where any sort of haven of people like us would be a downright miracle, total miracle. Even coming across one person like us would be a miracle, so it’s incredibly hard to believe it will be found, even if it does exist. The probability is just so infinitesimally small.

My friend replied in a voice message, ‘I always laugh and snigger when someone suggests me attending a club, like this woman I meet every week and discuss things with; she asks me if I’ve ever considered joining any clubs or societies, and I just laughed. Like, seriously, it’s just ridiculous.’

I replied, ‘Yes. I’ve had that my whole life, being suggested to attend all sorts of clubs or groups. They don’t have a clue.

At age 19, in response to a photo of a boy at a local meeting for those with Asperger syndrome, my friend stated:

‘He’s wearing blue jeans cropped to that height, and he’s proud of [a foundation] award and lacks anxiety to do so. The fact he has any drive at all to do so would mean he’s accepting or proud of the society he lives in and the accolades it furnishes.

Also, he thinks the death of a ferret is tragic.’ I replied, ‘Yes. That one was awful, absolutely terrible.’ My friend continued, ‘He’s one of those [types similar to a former secondary-school friend with milder Asperger syndrome] who needs help and needs to make “progress”.’

My friend continued, ‘Also, he weighs too much. I’d expect autists like us to be underweight, and then there’s the fact he can stand all that on his shirt and whatever is on his wrist.

The fact he had the expression to put his hand in the air like that; it’s nothing I could ever do. I just don’t have that much emotion at any time. Nothing elicits that level of physical reaction from me, except perhaps when I’m alone in my room.’ I replied, ‘Exactly, yes. These people look like lunatics.

I later stated, ‘Why are so many autists fat? [He] looks exactly like the stereotypical American neckbeard.’

As a preface for the next block, at age 14, in response to an autism-forum topic on meltdowns, I stated, ‘I don’t know what they are, and I don’t know what they feel like.’

At age 19, my friend stated:

‘It’s funny how these [regular autists] all use the word “meltdown”. I’ve never had a “meltdown”. I’ve only ever heard that word being used in the context of [the milder autism of a former secondary-school friend] and female autism.’ I replied, ‘Yes, you’re exactly right. I’ve never once used the word in that context myself and never would.’

The girl in our group chat later stated, ‘You know, when I have a “meltdown”, it’s like when a child has a tantrum, where they’re crying out loud.’ My friend replied, ‘I don’t have meltdowns. I don’t cry. I just don’t cry or have meltdowns.’ The girl replied, ‘Males usually aren’t as emotional as females, though, at least not outwardly.’

My friend later stated, ‘[A girl my friend was speaking to has] got the “meltdown” vocabulary, claims she gets them.’

I later stated, ‘”Stimming” never came up in my diagnosis process. Not once was it mentioned. I only discovered the term a couple of years ago. I don’t have any of the classic autism “stims”, or non-classic ones. I can’t rule it out, though, because some things I do might be classified as “stims” by others.’

I later sent a screenshot of a photo on the Wikipedia article for stimming showing a man touching a fluffy item with the caption ‘Feeling soft or otherwise enjoyable textures is a common form of stimming.’

I remarked, ‘Disgusting. I would hate that. I hate brushing my hand across surfaces.‘ My friend replied, ‘Never done that. “Stimming” is a stupid word, anyway. Hate it. I first heard it when [the girl in our group chat] came out with it, a few months ago.’ I replied, ‘Yes. I’d first heard it some years ago, can’t remember how though, would’ve been an online resource, probably a YouTube video.’

I later stated, in response to a YouTube video by an autistic female about autism’s representation in the media,[1] ‘She just said “allistic”, didn’t she? Haha, that lingo that they’ve developed.’ My friend replied, ‘What is alistic? Never heard of it.’

I replied, ‘It’s a lingo term some autists have developed for neurotypical [another autism-community neologism], in the same vein as allosome or allo- anything.’ My friend replied, ‘But it’s neurotypical to use lingo like that.’

At age 20, in response to a YouTube video by an autistic female titled ‘Autism in Females | invisible i’,[2] the girl in our group chat stated:

‘I watched this a while back.’ I replied, ‘Me too. She annoys me, like most autistic YouTubers. The fact she’s even able to wear a bracelet, ring and necklace all at once + makeup just negates everything that’s right about Asperger’s.’

The girl continued, ‘And although I do relate to some things, there are a lot of things I don’t relate to, specifically “wearing a mask and trying to imitate others to fit in“, something I’ve never done; also, the thing about having an interest, but it’s more “normal”, like an interest in makeup or clothes or fashion, whereas my interests are also obscure.’

I replied, ‘Yes: [“masking”] is their way of saying they don’t actually have autism. It’s bollocks, because the way they put it has no basis. They say, “Autism happens in just as many females, but they’re better at masking it.” It’s just a statement pulled out of thin air.

Also, this is literally proving what I say about females being more emotional and empathetic. That’s the established science; that’s what they actually mean to refer to. It’s not that females have autism just as bad or as frequently; it’s that they don’t, for this exact reason.

This is exactly polar to autism. You can’t have autism and be able to mask it as if you don’t. Part of the definition of autism is that you are not able to do these things.[3]

There are major issues with the entire autism diagnosis, but it’s not even the diagnosis that’s the problem; it’s the way people are treating it. It’s the same mentality that leads people to believe legal terms reflect reality; no, they fucking don’t.

People think, because autism is a thing, that girls and boys have it equal and it’s underdiagnosed and blah blah blah. It’s unnecessary politicisation. They don’t understand medicine; they don’t understand diagnostics.

Diagnoses shapeshift around sometimes, especially mental ones. ICD-11, which is coming soon, is literally doing away with all personality disorders and replacing them with just “personality disorder” with specific traits.[4]

My friend replied, ‘Yes, this can fuck off. I don’t want to fit in at all. I purposefully want to be as aloof as possible or just not draw any attention to myself at all. There are no emotional or social aspects to it. I act based on the goal at hand.

It’s the fact she can bear such a presence and not have a sensory issue involved. Asperger’s is all about not being able to tolerate annoying sensations,[3] like things on a shirt. It’s rubbish. They just don’t have autism. No female has ever been like a male with autism.

She’s also got a tattoo. There’s no way she has what we have. The fact she thinks Asperger’s is something to be suppressed rather than to be fucking glad about. It’s the fact she wants to be normal. That’s not any Asperger’s of mine.

I know she’d be “masking” it to friends, to everyone, to family. I purposefully don’t, but I just don’t do anything that would draw attention, so it’s not a case of suppressing autism in front of them.

I stopped watching the video after 5 seconds, because it’s only going to piss me off, because she’s another fake. I feel like making a video exposing all these fake autists.

Everything about a tattoo is why she doesn’t have autism. Autism looks like a really pathetic condition of followers desperately trying to fit in. I don’t want to fit in at all. I don’t want to be part of it. I feel disgust with fitting in. …

I’ve seen over 1 million girls online now. For 99.9% of those, I didn’t even need to stop and click on the profile picture, because they were immediately nothing like us, just looking at their profile picture in milliseconds.

And all the girls I did speak to, 100 or so, that didn’t have any of that going on that clearly ruled them out: they all had the typical views and behaviours. I’m just citing statistics here.’

At age 20, I stated, ‘It’s funny how practically all the friends I made in infant and primary school are now confirmed autists, dating to before I even knew what autism was. It’s a natural attraction, a natural sense I have for them.’

At age 19, my friend stated:

‘My autism is extreme, because you get autists, and they’re supposed to be picky, but then there’s me.’ I replied, ‘If you can call it that, because the traditional conception of extreme autism is low-functioning, which is why it’s wrong and why there are multiple autisms.’

I continued, ‘I don’t know how it ended up like that. You don’t simply lump in a higher-than-average IQ condition with a lower-than-average IQ condition as the same condition, makes bollocks sense.

Ours is indeed an extreme form of the high-IQ version, hence why I continue to use the word Asperger’s to refer to that version, but the majority with Asperger’s are nothing like us too, of course, so even Asperger’s, as a diagnosis, is wrong. I can’t classify what we have, I really can’t. I’ve seen nothing like it.

My friend replied, ‘Asperger’s is not us, really. Asperger’s is extroverted. They wear bright clothes and bowties.’ I replied, ‘No, but Asperger’s isn’t not us; it’s us and a bunch of completely unrelated silly people, which is why it’s wrong.’

At age 20, in response to a photo of a boy wearing a fedora and tie, which a girl had sent me as an example of one of her past romantic partners with high-functioning autism, my friend stated:

‘Hahaha, what a caricature, what a ridiculous caricature it all is, the hat as well, the amount of autists I’ve seen with some sort of hat on, especially bowler hats.’

I replied, ‘Yes, correct. Autists generally reek of science-fiction. They reek of Dr Who or Harry Potter or whatever, Star Wars. When I see that boy, I just picture him having a room full of Star Wars memorabilia in his house and all the bad associations that come along with that. I picture him wielding a lightsaber.’

My friend replied, ‘Correct. [A school peer with milder Asperger syndrome]: Lego and light sabres.’ I replied, ‘Yes, all of them.’

I later stated, ‘[That image] is now what I picture every time I think of the Dr Who/Star Wars/Harry Potter fan autist, Potterhead autists, as I called them originally. The sunny expression; they all have that. They’re not afraid to smile. This is why it’s nothing like us.’

At age 19, in response to comments by autistic females on a YouTube video by an autistic female about autism’s representation in the media,[1] my friend stated in a voice message:

‘”I started crying” [which two of the commenters had commented]; it’s ridiculous. Female autism: it’s like 10x more emotional and 10x more fiction-loving than a normal person.

It’s worse. It’s worse than being normal, actually. I’d much rather speak to a female that doesn’t have autism.’

At age 20, I stated:

‘I still think about that time [a former secondary-school friend with milder Asperger syndrome] said that he was pissed off about what I said about makeup on Facebook. It just speaks to how these people must think, these [regular autists], even. It’s nothing even remotely like us.

My friend replied, ‘But like I said, I couldn’t defend something like that, because it’s against my interests, because I’m not attracted to it.’ I replied, ‘Exactly. We’re repulsed by it.‘ My friend continued, ‘It has ruined my attraction time and time again.’

I continued, ‘It makes me wonder if they’re just doing it for virtue signalling, because they have a social investment and faith in people, but I don’t think it’s really that way. They must accept it on a personal level.

My friend replied, ‘Yes, but how? It means they’re personally attracted to it. It must mean that it has increased their feelings for a girl’s appearance. It must be personal.’ I replied, ‘Exactly. That’s the only plausible explanation.’

At age 20, I stated:

‘I sometimes feel like our Asperger’s is this ridiculous, extreme version that regular health professionals rarely get to deal with. I feel like it’s extremely fundamentally different from other versions.

It’s clearly this extreme, mysterious version, completely void of wanting to associate with social trends like Doctor Who or Star Wars like other autists and dressing in all black.

I feel like this specific type goes completely under the rug when it comes to the “autism community”. I feel like the [people like us] of the world never make themselves known, in online forums or comment sections, and it’s a hidden class of reclusive bedroom inhabitants all over the world.’

At age 20, I stated:

‘I’m sick to death of it. This is real stuff that’s happening. I don’t know how my perception is going to change when all of this real, nightmarish stuff is happening left, right and centre. Literally everywhere I look, a pinnacle of stupidity shows itself.

I’ve never been further from everyone else, and I will continue to grow further. I know I will. There will be no reconciling as my knowledge increases and increases. My resentment will grow and grow, since it’s been increasing at a higher rate than everyone else from the start.

What else is annoying is that every time I review these medical articles on Asperger’s or autism as a whole, I reflect them totally. They describe me to a tee, so it’s definitely me who has the classic Asperger’s.

I’m the classic representative. These fake autists and Potterhead autists simply aren’t. You said it perfectly right in your audio: they don’t have the issues we do; they don’t have the difficulties we do; they can tolerate countless things we can’t.

We are the clinical descriptions of Asperger’s. They aren’t. They’re fake. We are very far east on that empathising–systemising graphWe are the extreme examples. Everyone else is just watered down, diluted. No wonder we can’t relate to anyone. We’re on the furthest end.

My friend replied, ‘Yes. It’s fact. It’s not an opinion. It’s a fact out of my control.

At age 20, I stated:

‘It’s sad that Baron-Cohen is one of the few visible names advocating for the sex distinction in autism, meanwhile the “autism community” is screaming for “equality”. I still remember that scathing attack post against him made on an autism forum.

People get so overly emotional over perceived emotional injustices in totally emotionless factual research. It almost seems arbitrary, sometimes, like they pick a totally arbitrary cause to get all emotional over and set their emotions on, like [a girl my friend was speaking to] and her dolphins, makes it seem disingenuous.

They picked on Baron-Cohen for no real good reason, same reason they all pick on Autism Speaks and become so emotional and vocal about it. I’d actually never heard about the charity before I came across autists screaming about it, so it wasn’t an issue to me and still isn’t and shouldn’t be to them.

No one with a logical mind is going to end up supporting any charity, let alone one like that, so you don’t need to scream and holler. Just leave it alone. The less attention it gets, the better.’

I later stated, ‘Turns out Simon Baron-Cohen’s [Wikipedia] page has been plastered with criticism from feminists and offended autists by a now-banned user. “Neutrality is disputed” flag got put up by someone in response.’

My friend replied, ‘Exactly. That’s what you get for performing scientific research or trying to present facts and knowns and evidence and trying to progress human understandingIt’s met with a wall of emotion from the social mindset.

I replied, ‘I have a wealth of evidence behind my document. That’s the difference: the criticism was just opinion pieces in news publications by mostly feminist authors.

The science is on my side, because those who actually end up in science and end up doing science, by and large, can’t end up with those wrong views, because the evidence gets put before them.’

My friend replied, ‘It’s like how chimpanzees didn’t have language, which was the barrier to them progressing to human levels, but humans are now capped by their own issues, the social mindset, which are present with the mutation.

So they’ve reached that far, the next step from being a chimpanzee, but now, they’re preventing their own progression, due to self-detrimental aspects of the mutation.’ I replied, ‘Yes, being hampered by them.’

At age 20, I stated, ”No wonder [autism is] more common in males and that when it is in females, it never compels the same interests. You never see autistic females interested in technical-information collecting; it’s only ever art, fiction, etc. It’s a totally different beast, totally different, cannot be equated with male autism.’

At age 20, in response to a photo of two developers on stage at an event, I stated:

‘Isn’t that just the ultimate caricature of what coders get up to, at events with people like that?’ My friend replied, ‘On stage, teaching lectures, interacting with people.’ I later sent a screenshot of a developer’s social media profile and stated, ‘Obligatory convention/conference pics.’

I later sent several more photos of developers and stated, ‘Caricature, and the presentation podium again.’ My friend replied, ‘They always have a podium. That’s a [school-peer] type. I know them well. There was one at [another school], and there was one on TV today.’

My friend continued, ‘They move their arms about awkwardly, and their head tends to twitch and tic when they speak, and they tend to have glasses and a speech impediment, and they tend to have a permanent toothy smile on their face. It’s autism, but it’s like they’re some 1980s nerd who plays Tetris.’

At age 19, my friend stated:

‘It’s funny how much we resemble [the third person with our condition].’ I replied, ‘Exactly. That’s my point about the specific group of those with Asperger syndrome that comprises us, which is the small minority. He comes under that 10% or so threshold that I postulated. I’m only assuming it’s that high because we never come out of our shadows.’

My friend replied, ‘A very small number of autists are like us. It’s more like 0.1%.’ I replied, ‘Well, I need to explain my categorisation a bit better, because it’s a spectrum. I’m developing a full pictorial graph, because how I pictured it was very clear.’

After sending the graph, my friend replied, ‘Yes, the colouring. It indicates where the best female would be on the male graph.’ I replied, ‘Exactly. There’s a part of the male spectrum that females will just never reach.

My friend replied, ‘Yes. I don’t need official stats to know that, though. I only need to know my own observations. I know it’s fact, because I’ve seen it.

It was no trouble at all to find male autists remotely reasonable, but females: I had to go out and search through millions of them.‘ I replied, ‘Yes, but it’s good to know that science backs it up and in what way.’

I later stated, ‘The thing is, though, it’s still the case that all descriptions of autism and Asperger’s match me and not [people like a former secondary-school friend with milder Asperger syndrome].

Just look at this [information about asociality]; that does not describe [him]. Often, [autists like him] socialise very successfully, because they find a social group like them. They find many people just like them.

At age 20, I stated:

I conform most to the term autism out of anyone I’ve ever seen. I’m the most selfistic person out there. Mainstream autists are hardly autistic at all. It’s hilarious how easily we can apply that anhedonia term to anything and it describe us. We’re such gloomy people lol.’

My friend replied, ‘Why is [the former secondary-school friend with milder Asperger syndrome] fat?’ I replied, ‘I don’t think he has sensory issues in the classic autistic sense, in my sense, basically. I don’t think any of these cosplay Potterhead autists do. It’s a different autism, a very different autism to mine, very.’

At age 20, I stated, ‘You know, every time I’ve been complaining that autists have too much faith in people, it’s been schizoid that explains that in me. I do still believe that true autism is my form, because it still matches the outlines, while [autists like the former secondary-school friend with milder Asperger syndrome] patently don’t.’

At age 20, I stated, ‘Ready for a cringefest?’ I then sent two screenshots of long social-media posts from a girl displaying extreme empathy for her mother on Mother’s Day and for a social tragedy. I stated, ‘Female autists have hyper-empathy; they’re right, for some godforsaken reason. How cringey. Why does it do the opposite effect in females? I want that question answered.’

At age 20, I stated:

‘The only reason we can speak on behalf of autism is because we are the only ones who actually meet the criteria. Lack of empathy is written all over autism articles, but most autists fail to admit to that, and female autists claim too much empathy.

It’s they who are in the wrong. We meet the description perfectly.

At age 20, my friend stated:

‘It’s funny how the [regular autists] come out of their shell at this age, but we get worse.’ I replied, ‘No; everyone comes out of their shell at this age. I’ve seen it. Everyone becomes prominent.’ My friend replied, ‘When people talk about coming out of their shell, it means they are totally antithetical to [our condition], who become more withdrawn.

I continued, ‘Every entrepreneur, singer, producer, YouTuber, whatever, becomes successful at 18–21. Every regular person starts making their own way, and we go the opposite way. I realise I’m destined to die, destined to atrophy away. There’s nothing I can do about it. The more I study the brain, the more I realise it.’

My friend replied, ‘No parent or psychologist will be able to accept that. They think everyone can change. They will never be able to compute you saying you know more than a psychologist, and they will never be able to compute you being unable to change less so than anyone else, because they see your condition [through the social mindset].’ I replied, ‘I don’t care anymore. They can’t do shit and won’t do shit. Over my dead body, basically.’

I continued, ‘I have to be thankful that I can exist day-in and day-out and not go totally out of my mind, that I can just be in the present moment and feel okay, and that’s the thing; since I haven’t had to be reminded of that [what my friend just told me about parents or psychologists], work on my document has stalled. Instead of trying to prove something to someone, I can just research and actually build knowledge.

I will never be able to emphasise enough how much more at peace I am when I’m not around other people. The moment people are around me, I’m more agitated.

At age 21, I stated:

‘An autistic girl has burst on to the Wikipedia scene a couple of months ago and has started adding her own illustrations and ideology to autism-related articles. Guess what [the ideology] is. Actually, guess what her name is. Guess anything, and you’d probably get it right.

I then sent a screenshot of the user’s contributions, to which my friend replied, ‘”Autistic art“, “Autism rights movement”, “Masking”.’ I replied, ‘She added [a link between a particular psychotherapy and post-traumatic stress disorder in autistic people, which was pointed out because we could not suffer this disorder].’

I then sent an illustration by the user, which featured words such as ‘love’, ‘therapy’, ‘education’, ‘friendship’ and ‘#AutisticAllies’ and was captioned, ‘A drawing depicting autistic culture.’

My friend replied, ‘I’m sick of that shit.’ I replied, ‘It’s giving me bad memories from a place I’ve long advanced from and successfully avoided for a while, immersed in all this research.’

My friend replied, ‘What the fuck is autistic culture? I’d hate to be included in that shit. It needs a new name. The conditions need to be drastically revamped.

My friend then sent two illustrations by the user that depicted silhouetted outlines of people with rainbow colours in their brains. He stated, ‘This is literal scum, however it’s a good depiction for them, because that’s literally what their brain looks like, but not mine.’

My friend continued, ‘Their brain is a colourful, emotional mess. Still, imagine doing that instead of studying the structures of the brain. Imagine drawing a rainbow gradient on it instead. Oh no, “stimming” and “neurodiversity” results come up when you type her username in Google.’

My friend then sent a screenshot of the user’s biography on a website and stated, ‘The fact she expanded the [LGBT] acronym that much as well [to 9 letters followed by a “+”]. It’s all a caricature. “Writing fiction has always been a dream of mine”, “art”, “she/her”. Why does it even need a slash? Just say female, then people know what pronouns to use. Why would it be she/him, for fuck’s sake? “I study autism a lot”; no, you don’t. “We autistic people”; I absolutely disassociate from that word.’

I continued, ‘Hahaha, she really tried to add an edit sourced from her own blog.’ I then sent a screenshot of an Instagram comment of extreme, overwhelming appreciation for the editor and how she changed their view on autism and remarked, ‘Time to get back to work.’ My friend replied, ‘I’m in tears that that is real.’

My friend then sent a screenshot of the NHS page for autism,[5] which stated, ‘Autism can sometimes be different in girls and boys. For example, autistic girls may be quieter, may hide their feelings and may appear to cope better with social situations. This means autism can be harder to spot in girls.’

My friend remarked, ‘NHS page. What a joke. The reason they cope better is because they can relate, for god’s sake. There are millions of people like them. They cope better because they want to be there.

They love and have extreme empathy for everyone. Their views and interests are related to by millions. They are totally accepted and legal.’ I replied, ‘It’s still a community run in large part by girls, though. I don’t have to pay notice to it [due to the sex ratio of our severity of our condition].’

At age 20, in response to these comments, my friend stated:

‘How is that high-functioning? It’s low-functioning, as far as I’m concerned. That’s why I stopped associating with the term HFA [high-functioning autism] as well.

I’ve disassociated from autism, Asperger’s, ASD [autism spectrum disorder] and “high-functioning”. I’m only associated with SPD [schizoid personality disorder].’

I replied, ‘Even now, I’m only mildly associated with that. It’s by far the most accurate descriptor, but it has serious problems.’

After describing the problems, my friend replied, ‘Not good. I’m fully associated with the social-mindset document, the name of the condition that will be devised to describe us.’

My friend later stated at age 21, ‘I really don’t like that [about SPD]. There is no fantasy world. It’s lack of imagination.‘ I replied, ‘Well, we’ve disassociated from that.’

At age 21, I stated, ‘Social isolation in low-functioning autists is because their brain literally isn’t working as well; cell-to-cell connection is flawed. Our social isolation is because our brains are working too well. That’s the enigma.’

At age 21, I stated, ‘It actually makes sense that female autists are some of the most obnoxious people I’ve ever known, what with the increased empathy. Never trust cosplayers, because it means they want to emulate fiction that much, which means their social mindset is that much higher.’

At age 21, I stated:

‘Why do coders and Wikipedians and other [autists like the former secondary-school friend] all have to be the most obnoxious people possible? I basically answered that question in my head by comparing it with why cosplayers and female autists have to be the most obnoxious people possible and how [autists like the former secondary-school friend] are often fat and alcoholic.

It’s the extra social mindset. Obviously, it’s working on a fine level there as well. Clearly, with having more overall intelligence, the trend seems to be to diminish the social mindset, however, like with our differences, it can elevate or diminish specific areas of the brain preferentially [depending on other gene mutations] when given that fuel.’

I later stated, ‘That would neatly explain the intelligent but fat, alcoholic, even religious autists, i.e. relative hyperplasia in both areas, social mindset and rest of brain, and then we are the anomalies, where a mutation along the same line really does fuck things over badly.

But it needs that context, that physiological and genetic background. Whatever does lead humans to be more intelligent gives a higher risk of a mutation leading to us.

I later stated, ‘I will look for other studies to see if they confirm my hypothesis. “Liberals had more [grey matter] in the anterior cingulate cortex (ACC)[6] …” See, this is what I’d expect, exactly what I’d expect. That may be, in fact, what overgrowth is creating in these left-wing coder autists.’

At age 21, I stated:

‘Lol, the Wikipedia t-shirt; of course they look like that.’ My friend replied, ‘They’re all caricatures, with their smiling and their beards and long hair and their writing on t-shirts related to 80s gaming, culture, TV programmes or software.’

I replied, ‘Exactly, and the posing in group photos and hands on shoulders.’ My friend replied, ‘Yes, at some university convention.’

At age 21, I stated:

‘It’s now quite easy for me to believe that the reason autists consider themselves to struggle with social interaction but still want it is purely down to their latent social mindset, but not that it isn’t lower [than average]; it’s just miles higher than ours.

It’s making them appropriate criticism of their behaviour and also making them still want to interact, even if they struggle. I think there is a very large scale of severity, very large.’

At age 20, I had stated:

‘You know what I hate? We are the only ones actually systematically investigating the reasons for these shootings. We are the only ones actually doing anything productive to uncover their causes. We should be lauded, theoretically.

Everyone else just screams and condemns and launches memory foundations and charitiesnever getting any closer to the cause, the actual science of the cause, never getting any closer to stopping them.

Wow. I just had a light-bulb moment. There’s never been a link between autism and shootings, necessarily. That’s not the link. The link is between autism and mass shootings, and I can tell you exactly why.

It’s because all the non-autists who are predisposed to do shootings who don’t think ahead and see the consequences of their actions: they’re the ones who commit crime on a regular basis and get locked up before they can actually do more crime.

They’re the abusers. They’re the ones who rob, assault, kill and then get caught, obviously, because they do it on the spur of the moment.

But the autists who get predisposed to killing: they plan it very, very meticulously. They know full well that they’re going to either die or go to prison once they’ve done what they need to do, so they only do it as a last resort, and when they do, they make it big, so they appear in the ranks of the mass shootings a lot more often.

There isn’t a link between autism itself and the killings, because as I’ve just shown you, and as I’ve only recently really learnt, practically all – I don’t think I’ve seen one yet who isn’t – of the autists and non-autists who end up in those ranks of killings and crime have an antisocial-personality-disorder streak. They have terribly broken families. They have split-up parents. They have constant moving in their childhood.

That’s the only consistent link that I’ve seen there, so autism in combination with that causes a slightly different type of crime where more causalities may be present, but there isn’t a spree of crime, necessarily, but the lack of autism with it causes the more spree-oriented type of crime, where they think they can’t get away with it, or they do it on the spur of the moment, and they don’t think about the consequences.

That’s the only real link. The link isn’t between autism and crime, per se.’

I later stated, ‘Anyway, the picture that is painted is that these mass murders just happen to be more common at a sweet point of a rough combination of the two conditions, some mix of ASD [autism spectrum disorder] and ASPD [antisocial-personality-disorder] behaviours.[7][8]

ASPD behaviours without autism lead to long criminal records, never having the wits to successfully plan out a mass murder, whereas just autism alone leads to no motivation to do such an act.

Whatever’s going on, clearly autism is involved, but something else seems to be, a two-hit mechanism. They all do have these ASPD lineages.

Let’s not forget, many of those who carry it out will exist in the United States, while those that don’t will exist everywhere, so in line with what they say, the means do allow some of them to come about. When they complain about those who carry it out, they’re complaining about a small minority, who manage to, basically, almost all in the US.

Also, the desire often isn’t all about committing a mass murder; the desire usually involved suicidality, of course. The desire has to be to be ok with ending one’s own life before doing that, has to be to end one’s own life, usually through suicide, otherwise through prison for life, and that’s what we see explicitly, this desire to end their own life.’

I later stated at age 21, ‘Fundamentally, killing people like that as a statement and then killing yourself is the social mindset, but the lack of the social mindset is dominant over psychopathy and non-psychopathy.

It dampens both. It overrules and overrides and becomes the dominant phenotype, leading to a wide array of similarities that aren’t found in those conditions as well as a lack of features found in those conditions.

The only reason mass shooters get more media concern is because they are more unlike the social mindset, not because they’re actually more harmful. Regular criminals could be seen to commit more harm collectively; it’s just protracted and over a long period.

Essentially, it’s a clean divide: one group has a strong social mindset and ASPD behaviours; they commit assaults, rapes, robberies, drink-driving. They go in and out of prison. Some of them become mafia bosses or cartel leaders, and those even gain respect of general people or, at least, awe or admiration, because it’s closer to the social mindset.’

My friend replied, ‘What they do is more relatable. Because they have the social mindset, they’re going to be social-mindset-based crimes that are part of society. The things they’re doing are part of society, basically.’

I continued, ‘Mass shooters kill a bunch of people once then often kill themselves. They often have no criminal history, often were reclusive their entire lives. Obviously, it still requires that psychopathy streak, that ASPD streak, but it’s a clean divide between strong social mindset + ASPD streak and autism + ASPD streak.

The social-mindset types will enact impulsive crimes with little regard for consequences, keep getting in prison, but people will relate more to them, because they have the social mindset, so they won’t receive as much media backlash despite having committed crime over a much longer period and in some cases harmed or even killed more people.

So to get this clear, in every single case of violent crime, the social mindset and an ASPD streak as a result of spontaneous amygdala activity is required, whether it’s a low social mindset or high social mindset.’

My friend replied, ‘[They don’t have to] necessarily relate, but the crime is one in their language. It’s one they’ve seen before and that’s in the culture.’ I replied, ‘Well, they will. They will relate, because they’ll think, “Oh, they came from a bad neighbourhood”, or they’ll relate to their behaviour while drunk, which we would never do.’

I continued, ‘People often glorify gang violence. People like violent rap. They call it an expression of their life story and experiences and relate and feel empathy. People never relate to autistic mass killers, or, at least, those who do will all have that form of Asperger syndrome and not be general people.

You can’t really be a dumb, impulsive ASPD type to commit a calculated mass shooting, because you’d lose your temper or blow your cover, so it’s like Stephen Paddock’s family.

His family are social-mindset ASPD types: his brother [Bruce] and father [Benjamin] are career criminals: robberies,[9][10] sexual crimes,[10] etc., but Stephen himself didn’t have that criminal history.[11], p. 20 He was born with a more autistic brain[11], pp. 113, 115, 116 but retained the ASPD streak, so it just turned his crime into a calculated, sophisticated one.

That’s all it does. High-functioning autism doesn’t cause crime; it changes what would otherwise have been impulsive crimes into calculated, sophisticated ones designed for mass casualty, but the person has to have an ASPD streak in the first place.

The autism itself actually lessens the chance of crime, because it lessens the threat-proxy feature of the social mindset, so if you continued reducing the social mindset and increasing autism until you were another animal, you wouldn’t gain any pleasure out of a non-threat’s pain or “making a statement” to society.

So maybe that’s what some people mean when they make a distinction between ASPD and psychopathy [a distinction not recognised in diagnostic manuals[3][12]]. Maybe they are referring to less impulsive types with a more autistic brain in psychopathy and more impulsive types in ASPD.’ My friend replied, ‘Don’t know.’

I continued, ‘But neither is actually autism itself. Both [ASPD and psychopathy] are a result of dysplasia in the amygdala–hypothalamus network. Autism’s something else, anterior insula–anterior cingulate cortex, obviously.

So the point that needs to get drilled home is that autistic school shooters are the minority within the minority. Any particular fear about school shooters is basically unwarranted, like fear of plane crashes,[13] because they are not the majority source of crime, not the majority source of death.

They are actually a small minority. Gun crime is rampant across America.[14] Knife crime is rampant across the UK.[15] Far more people die from regular gun crime and knife crime than mass shootings.

It’s just like how you’re more likely to die on your way to the airport than in a plane crash; you’re more likely to die on your way to school than in a school shooting.

It’s just unnecessary and overblown. Street violence is the source of the deaths. Impulsive types are the source of the deaths. It’s media hype, media outrage, media celebration. That’s all it is, just because they can’t understand like they can gang violence and make it into this big, scary thing.’

My friend replied, ‘Actually, it’s just fear of the 1% again, which the media shares. This is a common paradigm that relates to schizophrenics being scared of the FBI.’ I replied, ‘Yes, exactly, schizophrenics fearing some small, select group is out plotting to harm them, making their entire mentality about that one group or a small clique, government conspiracy, an entire state run by a small group behind closed doors rather than the entire population of the state being necessary for its running.’

My friend replied, ‘The people who write the media also have the mindset, and then people relate to the media, because it’s portraying that mindset. All my fears are based round the 99%.

But like I said, this is how “minority” arose and how “prejudice” arose. It’s something only they’re capable of and only applies to them. Sexism is another made-up issue. There’s no issue to be had, only the facts of what males and females are.’ I replied, ‘Yes, and LGBT, LGBT fearing ostracism by the minority when in fact, they are accepted by the majority now in Western countries.[16][17]

My friend replied, ‘LGBT only exists because people were against paraphilias, which is the social mindset. The only justification for being against homosexuality was people being against taboos, those same people upholding the laws but just the laws of the 1800s.

The people protesting for LGBT today are the same people who would have been protesting against it in 1800. The common factor is the mass view.‘ I replied, ‘Exactly. It’s likely they would’ve been heavily ashamed of their own sexuality in the 1800s and tried to fight it and remove it.’

My friend replied, ‘Yes, exactly like now with paedophilia.’ I replied, ‘Yes, exactly. It is the mass view. You’re correct. It’s the thought appropriation of the law or societal view. It’s appropriating societal attitudes of yourself as your own views of yourself.

My friend replied, ‘That’s why it looks so ridiculous, that people could allow themselves to be part of that blatant simulation and take it seriously when it’s nothing concrete and just changes over time, just cycles through.’

I replied, ‘But anyway, that’s why so many mass shooters have Asperger syndrome, but yes, some of them link that into it as if it caused the criminality when in fact, it changed what would have been impulsive crime into that, and the difference in harm wasn’t substantial and, when agglomerated, is actually far higher with impulsive crime.

Autism will change the presentation of crime. It won’t cause it, rather the opposite. Spontaneous amygdala activity + the social mindset causes crime. Both are fundamentally necessary.’

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